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RealID MASTER POST #3
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noabsolutes wrote in wow_ladies
Hi wow_ladies!!


NONE OF THIS MATTERS ANYMORE, IT'S BEEN CALLED OFF

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25968987278&sid=1

WE ARE NOW PARTYING OVER HERE

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Woke up today feeling ever so slightly better

With zero updates yesterday and all the CMs having all but disappeared, I feel a bit better that some of them seem a bit chipper (click here) and that some have come out of the woodwork to at least discuss as much as they are allowed to (see here). It's not a huge improvement, but a slight one nonetheless. The CMs being in a better mood could mean that things are being discussed on Blizzard's end. That maybe an office memo was sent out with some info that has eased their minds or at least made their jobs a tad easier. Either way, I am feeling slightly better about the situation knowing they are around and they are listening. Only slightly tho. :P

Edited at 2010-07-08 10:08 pm (UTC)

Re: Woke up today feeling ever so slightly better

Nice to see a CM other than Wryxian. I like the one who was giving out waffles.

"16. DISCLOSURES; THIRD PARTY FEATURES.
1. Massive.
Blizzard's Games and the Service may incorporate technology of Massive Incorporated ("Massive"), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation ("Microsoft"), that enables in-game advertising, and the display of other similar in-game objects, which are downloaded temporarily to your personal computer and replaced during online game play. As part of this process, Massive may collect some information about the game and the advertisements delivered to you, as well as standard information that is sent when your personal computer or game console connects to the Internet including your Internet protocol (IP) address. Massive will use this information to transmit and measure in-game advertising, as well as to improve the products and services of Massive and its affiliates. None of the information collected by Massive will be used to identify you. For additional details regarding Massive's in-game advertising practices, please see Massive's In-Game Advertising privacy statement at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=122085&clcid=0x409. The trademarks and copyrighted material contained in all in-game advertising are the property of the respective owners. Portions of the Service are © 2008 Massive Incorporated. All rights reserved.
2. Facebook.
If you have a registered "Facebook Account" you may opt-in to the "Facebook Friends" feature which will allow you to see which of your Facebook friends are registered on the Service. The "Facebook Account" is subject to separate terms and conditions provided by Facebook Inc. Note that if you have a Facebook account, your Facebook friends will be able to associate your screen name with your real name on the Service when they use the Facebook Friends feature. Facebook disclaims all liability it may otherwise incur as a result of this Agreement and/or your use of the Service.."

what the shit? O_o

Massive will use this information to transmit and measure in-game advertising

say what?!

Btw, looks as if Neth has posted in a new, related thread. It's not much, but it's something.

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25626051767/what-does-blizzard-plan-to-do/

Want my addons back....

I've set up the parental controls, but I'm a little confused about what addons are safe to use. All of mine are from Curse and have a lot of users and approval - but that's probably not enough. How do I determine if an addon will or won't release my name?

Re: Want my addons back....

If you've set up the parental controls, you don't have to worry about the addon security issue.

I don't see the big deal

What is the difference between using real names on the forums and using them on things like facebook, myspace and twitter?

Is this just a problem because certain people are worried about their rights under the constitution?

I don't have one of those so I remain care free - and I don't use the forum anyway LOL.

Re: I don't see the big deal

If this is a legitimate question and not trolling, you can read the huge amount of resources the mods have so thoughtfully and carefully compiled. There are tons of good, valid, legitimate reasons why people don't want this.

I just found a thread on the General forums by an ex with the title "My name is [name here]" and the body "Real ID doesn't bother me a bit. :D" He even bumped it explicitly to see if anyone could find him. By the second page, someone had found the city he lives in, his university, his brother's name. By the third page, they had his e-mail. By the fourth page, they had his old diaryland site from 2002, ancient angelfire page, etc.

I really wish I could say I was surprised. (I also really wish I could say I never dated him.)

you should order him a pizza or 20.

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Another interesting avenue for protest: When I cancelled my Cata pre-order with Amazon last night it asked for a reason, I gave other and 'Real ID'.

I'd urge anyone else who has Activision/Blizzard products on pre-order to do the same. I don't know if it'll be enough to raise a stink but someone at Amazon will be feeding this sort of stuff back to Blizzard.

When a company starts viewing 13000 people as "less than 1% of profits" instead of as 13000 people, that's when they get to start calling themselves a corporation.

GG, Blizzard. :(

Saw this floating around as a little beacon of hope

"16. DISCLOSURES; THIRD PARTY FEATURES.
1. Massive.
Blizzard's Games and the Service may incorporate technology of Massive Incorporated ("Massive"), a wholly-owned subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation ("Microsoft"), that enables in-game advertising, and the display of other similar in-game objects, which are downloaded temporarily to your personal computer and replaced during online game play. As part of this process, Massive may collect some information about the game and the advertisements delivered to you, as well as standard information that is sent when your personal computer or game console connects to the Internet including your Internet protocol (IP) address. Massive will use this information to transmit and measure in-game advertising, as well as to improve the products and services of Massive and its affiliates. None of the information collected by Massive will be used to identify you. For additional details regarding Massive's in-game advertising practices, please see Massive's In-Game Advertising privacy statement at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=122085&clcid=0x409. The trademarks and copyrighted material contained in all in-game advertising are the property of the respective owners. Portions of the Service are © 2008 Massive Incorporated. All rights reserved.
2. Facebook.
If you have a registered "Facebook Account" you may opt-in to the "Facebook Friends" feature which will allow you to see which of your Facebook friends are registered on the Service. The "Facebook Account" is subject to separate terms and conditions provided by Facebook Inc. Note that if you have a Facebook account, your Facebook friends will be able to associate your screen name with your real name on the Service when they use the Facebook Friends feature. Facebook disclaims all liability it may otherwise incur as a result of this Agreement and/or your use of the Service..
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Apparently there is a legal way out of this as someone suggested in this thread. I just sent the following letter at opt-out@blizzard.com

Hello,
After reading the following statement:
If at any time you wish to opt out of having your personal information shared with third parties and/or receiving information from Blizzard (via e-mail or postal mail) about new products, services, or promotions, you can do so.

in your privacy policy, I am sending this e-mail to make it clearly known to Blizzard-Activision that I wish to opt out of having my personal information shared with any and all third parties (including Facebook, Microsoft and any future other), while I still want to receive information from Blizzard, and Blizzard only.

I am waiting your e-mail of confirmation that my account has been flagged for opting out of such deals.

Thanks in advance,
Bender B. Rodríguez

Battle.net ID: bender@gmail.com"



I don't know if this is true, but it can't hurt. Opt-out@blizzard.com is a valid email.

Just had to share this person's post on the main thread I stumbled across. Made me so sadface. :(

"Thank you Blizzard. That message you put out there, the one that basically said that you are going through with this despite the vehement wave of people against it, or to put it more simply, the one where you told us to go F ourselves, has cause my best friend to quit.

We used to play together, sitting side by side on our laptops, and playing with her was a huge part of my enjoyment of this game. We have played together so long, that we have become in tune with each other so much, that we know what the other is going to do before we do it.

That is now gone, thanks to you. She is gone, not likely to come back unless you stop this. Which you said that your not going to do, so she is not coming back. The only reason that I have not canceled my subscription yet is because I very much want to play the worgen. But to tell you the truth, even that is not seeming as great as it once did, since I will not have her beside me playing anymore.

Thank you Blizzard, for ruining part of my WoW experience. "

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25712374700&sid=1&pageNo=2228

Gosh, this made me feel awful. :(

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They didn't ban you, but they had the Lich King himself hurl you off the top of Archerus. :P

I still plan to play. I still want to play. I don't actually have a problem personally with the idea, provided they are true to their word in making the official forums an opt-in choice and never giving out the RealID to anyone without the player's permission.

However, I have a lot of friends who are quitting over this. That is going to suck. A lot.

Found this article from Softpedia, date-stamped today:

Blizzard Ready to Hear Feedback on Real ID System: Goes on with its implementation

Emphasis in article is mine.

Blizzard has recently announced that it is making use of real world names and other data mandatory on the official forums for Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty, the long awaited strategy game sequel set to arrive on July 27, and for the World of Warcraft MMO, which should get the Cataclysm expansion. After a rather hostile reaction from the community of players, the studio revealed that it would be continuing to talk to players about the system but that it would nonetheless go ahead with its implementation.

...

It seems the company is comfortable with the fact that a lot of players might migrate from the official forums, asking questions and participating in other Internet-based communities. It might have some problems as bug reports from the player base are crucial to the ongoing task of World of Warcraft, the best MMO.

Blizzard is also assuring gamers that the moderating team will be more vigilant than ever when Real ID is being implemented, trying to limit all the incidents that can arise from the use of real world names on a gaming forum with a player base as big as that of World of Warcraft. Still, the potential for abuse is high and the official forums might feel much more empty in a short while.


/sadface

Edited at 2010-07-09 01:18 am (UTC)

the moderating team will be more vigilant than ever when Real ID is being implemented, trying to limit all the incidents that can arise from the use of real world names

*raises eyebrow* So Blizzard will send out a security bod to deal with the random stalker that turns up on a someone's doorstep will they? Do we get a hotline for that or one of those funky emergency buttons?

I'd rant more but I'm waiting to see this confirmed elsewhere so flat out sarcasm will have to do for now...

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Well, I cancelled my account. :(

The megapost is so frustrating to read. I notice that RealID doesn't have supporters so much as there's a small group of people who ridicule and belittle RealID opponents. Which honestly just proves our point -- Acti-Blizz expects us to reveal our real names to these people? These people who have all the signs of being bullies and verbal abusers?