WoW_Ladies: Girl Gamers of World of Warcraft

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Am I the only one?
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rayce wrote in wow_ladies
I just want to see how others feel right now.

I have been playing WoW since BC and L.O.V.E this game. I never needed "a break" as others have and play almost daily. I am the GM of a great guild that I started just before Cata came out, raid often and love my guild friends/family.

But since this new expansion came out I've been fed up. I hated dailies before and I hate them even more now. Blizz said "Hey.. we are taking the shoulder enchants off of faction so you don't Have to do faction grinding." and then they put all the gear I need to raid on faction so I have to do dailies and take away the tabards. Wth was the point of that? I already have a full time job and simply don't have the free time to spend 4-6 hours a day doing dailies! Someone tried to point out to me that my boyfriend has a higher gear score than me and doesn't run dungeons. He also worked from home when the expansion came out and spent most of his days doing dailies Every Single Day while testing items offline for his job.

I've talked to rl friends who are fed up with the dailies and are starting to shut down their WoW accounts. I've already watched multiple people who were addicted to the game turn their back on it. I just can't bring myself to do that but I have very little interest in playing the game lately. I keep hoping that our guild starting to raid next month will fix my lack of interest.

I'm just wondering if others are feeling as let down by this expansion as I am? What do you do to keep the game fun when all you can find to do is dailies and pokeman fights with kung fu panda? What is there in this expansion beyond the dailies that I'm missing?

Edited to clarify because I simply can't respond to all posts:
I am aware I can raid without doing dailies but I can't get the upgrades I want without doing dailies. There is a difference. The primary issue is that Blizz talked about this expansion not requiring people to do faction to get things and then they require you do dailies to get faction to buy things. It is not what I expected or what they said they were doing and I am disappointed with that.

You don't need to do dailies to raid.

What are the other options?

To be honest, I'm sick of hearing people say this without following up on HOW I can raid without doing dailies for upgrades. Heroic gear is not raid ready.

(Edited to add that this reply comes off catty but isn't meant to be. I really want to know my other options)

Edited at 2012-11-28 12:49 am (UTC)

You 're not the only one.. I'm starting to feel the burn myself, too much dailies is too much, it's hard enough on one but let alone several.. I' ve been seriously considering canceling my accounts or taking a break for awhile. Sure we have new stuff coming in but when it comes right down to it ,once we do the new quests, we get bombarded with even more dailies. Teh things that I once enjoyed just doesn't feel a fun anymore.

I stopped doing quests as soon as I realized I was only doing them to open up more dailies. Plus the quests are not all that exciting to me.

I'm wondering if I'm just experiencing burn out in general.

Yeah, I'm feeling the same way. I feel like unless I'm doing dailies there's nothing to do. :/ You don't have to do dailies to raid but grinding dailies for all the factions (because of course I want the achievements/mounts and stuff) is just ridiculous. I think when you at least get honored or revered there should be a tabard to finish off the rest if you wish.

And, it sucks that so many profession patterns are tied to the dailies now, too, like enchanting. :/

Yeah, I'm feeling the same way. I feel like unless I'm doing dailies there's nothing to do. :/

That right there is what is making me not like this expansion. :(

I got very burnt out on the dailies myself after a few days. If it helps, prioritizing one faction at a time helped me--one set of dailies per day only takes 30 minutes or so and is way easier to manage than trying to do all of them. You'll get burnt out pretty quick that way, and you can still get a lot done doing one faction at a time. I've also been doing them with a partner recently and things go MUCH faster.

Still, I feel you on this--I love gearing alts but I'm having trouble getting the motivation to do so when the dailies are such a core part of the expansion. I'm hoping it'll be better now that 5.1 has dropped (and with it, rep bonuses for alts + the ability to upgrade existing gear with JP/VP instead of grinding rep to buy new gear).

Also with 5.1, concentrating on the most important faction for each toon,means when another toon wants it they'll get the buffed increase in rep gain.

the hatter

I don't know, I only bought one item from the faction vendors and I'm only doing Golden Lotus and Shado-Pan for the professions. I do them now and then. I wanted to do Klaxxi for a belt and then thought of how much I hate Dread Wastes and decided to go with the belt from heroics until I get something from RF. I still have a blue belt but that's better than doing something you hate.
I admit I was rather lucky with LFR and Sha loot and not everyone is but keep doing it and you will get what you need!

I'm not even remotely burnt out, I enjoy the dailies, they only take up about an hour of my time once I got the hang of them (I do tillers+GL+SP) and I do them while listening to an audiobook or chatting to a friend on Skype sometimes so that the time is not wasted. And I almost never do them daily, only if I feel like it and only so that I get at least 90 lesser charms per week to get these extra rolls in LFR and on Sha. That's 45-ish dailies a week, that's nothing. Doing them with a friend is also an option - they'll go faster and you'll chat meanwhile=)

I'm really happy with MoP, way more so than with Cata, but even cata was fun for me, because it's a game I love that I play with my friends. And the way to keep the game fun is to play with friends and do what you enjoy. I for example love pet battles and can spend hours on them when I have time and they're an amazing and fun addition to the game. Just do what's your thing and remember it's a game and you're supposed to have fun. If your thing is raiding then do LFR, it's still raiding! And wait for the loot and try out pugs etc!

I don't do dailies. And I don't care for them.. lol

I felt like this... until Pandaria. I didn't love Cataclysm, but I didn't hate it. I've never felt the need to "take a break" until all of my friends have either transferred servers or stopped playing.

I don't mind dailies, but doing dailies perpetually alone just makes me mad and sad.

You're not the only one. I hate the new daily system. If you want to see how much you are so not alone, take a look at the first page of the official WoW General Discussion forum.

I spent the first month of the expac doing some of the dailies and by the time I unlocked shado-pan and august celestials, I was burnt out on them and bored to tears and I wasn't even doing them religiously like some of the more hardcore people I know. So I stopped doing them, except for Tillers. They are not really optional-- there are other things they affect that even go beyond raiding-- namely professions and alts. I really believe Blizzard will add the much in demand rep tabards or another solution like account-wide reputation, or a rep tabard that can be purchased at exalted.

I know a few people who have quit because of it. I think one of the biggest reasons is alts. Personally, I have only leveled my main to 90. I have several 85 alts I am not going to bother leveling them past that until there is a change implemented (faster rep gains on alts doesn't change anything imo). "Most alt-unfriendly expansion" for sure.

Last week I capped valor from dungeons and raids and had nothing to spend on it, I ended up dumping some on a side-grade. I don't really understand why they lowered the VP cap-- seems like it's just so players feel more pressure to keep doing dailies so they have a way to spend it. Seems silly to me that even if I do boycott dailies because they're so "optional" and choose to play the game like I want to e.g. though competitive raiding, dungeons and LFR that I still end up with a "reward" (valor) I can do nothing with unless I grind dailies. Optional, uh huh.

Here's a good post I found on the forums that I felt hit the nail on the head quite nicely:

"Dailies are another prime example of course of this same trend. A decision by Blizzard motivated purely by the belief that creating chores for players to do every day makes it more likely they will stick around in their subscription. It's not about fun there, it's just about tying a reward to a grind that slowly - extremely slowly - gets done on a day to day basis. They're hoping that the joy of the reward will make players stick around longer than they otherwise would. Of course the game has always had grinds, but the level of reward and the tying of grinds to solo content has never been at this level, and it kind of stumbled over that line from, "hidden grind through enjoyable gameplay" to "boring grind where players are all too aware they are in a grind and can't wait to get the reward so they can never do that boring content ever again.""

A few weeks into Cata I had few 85s, right now, 2 months into MoP, I still only have 1 level 90...Alts are one of my biggest complaints about this xpac, I love MoP and I'm enjoying it immensely but as an altaholic I'm finding it rather alt unfriendly, especially in regards to rep. I have no desire to repeat rep grinds and the double rep gains once you hit revered solution is just a joke. To me it really feels like they did that because they swore black and blue they'd never do account wide reputations but then they realised they had to do something so they came up with the half arsed solution that isn't going to make many people happy but that they can point at and say 'look we listened so shut up about it already'.

I also have an issue with the fact that due to experience gains from dungeons being so low that leveling, even with rested, via LFD isn't a viable option and I hate questing so due to these two things combined I'm not really playing my alts unless I actually really just want to play them rather than level them if that makes sense. They really do need to make MoP a little more alt friendly, for me it's not enough to cause me to walk away from the game but I can understand how it would be for some people.

It has kinda ruined the game for me PVE wise. When people say I can do it slowly and don't do all at once I cringe, because I can't stand even doing a few. Even the thought of getting a cloud serpent wasn't enough, or any other fancy mounts or gear. I loved the system I had in 4.3 where i could run with friends, possibly get some 378 drops, if not i would get valor each time anyways(and rep with a tabard) so I could get gear(not gated behind reps, all at same vendor) that would progress my character and I loved gradually seeing my character get tier gear(especially paladin, so pretty :3 ) I could do one each day, or earn all 1000 in one day, my choice. I feel my choices have been taken away from me, and I will not do any dailes no no no. I guess I'll just hope for some lfr/sha drops, which i haven't been lucky with yet.

I find myself leveling alts, that way i get a feeling of progression of a character that I do not get at endgame. Not sure what I'll do though when I've leveled them all up. I can't just continually level alts and let them sit. I don't even know what to do. I don't know what I'llbe doing later patches if this doesn't change, maybe log in every now and then for events, and that's a bit crazy to say for me that has been leveling all these characters.

Why am I running around as a cat when I want to progress my healing character idgi. I do find myself pvping a lot more though since it has the old system still, except more annoying now with all the botting.

I do one set at a time. I finally got exalted with GL, so I'm not doing those anymore. I'm exalted with Tillers so I only do the one daily for the token and farm up my songbell seeds for free motes/spirits. Right now I'm working on Klaxxi. Sometimes I'll do Anglers, and I'll probably mix in the new faction too, but my focus is Klaxxi till exalted. Then I'll move on to something else. As of today, you can get 100% rep increase on any reps you have at Revered. It also works for your alts. You just have to purchase the commendation from the quartermaster.

For raiding, I went straight in with heroic blues. I didn't even craft stuff until a week or two later. I've gotten a few pieces from LFR, but most of those have been downgrades (tier legs that I had drop from Sha, boots that I'd already gotten from Feng normal...twice, etc). I'm wearing the PvP epic (Malevolent) hands because the bonus is nice and they're better than my LFR gloves.

My biggest problem with the current daily system is alts. I had a ton of alts in Cata and WotLK, this xpac not so much. I don't want to grind reps on them. I think it's stupid that we have to grind Cloud Serpents on every character just to learn the ability to ride them. Everyone can ride the Netherdrakes and the Skyguard mounts, the serpents should be the same. I don't do dailies on alts. I sometimes barely do them on my main. The only reason I continue to do them is mounts and achievements. I really do hope that they change it so that it's easier for alts to get rep (either account wide, or tabard at revered/exalted).

You're certainly not the only one who hates dailies. I actually don't mind them. At this point, I can purchase gear from all of them and therefore only do dailies at my leisure for mounts, achieves, and fun. I've actually loved this expansion. The storyline is good, the graphics nice, the mechanics interesting, and the developing gated content coming through the patches (pvp time, folks!) keeps it interesting for me.

Frankly, I'm bored as hell with WoW. I despise dailies, though I have to agree with others and say that they aren't needed to raid; it sounds like it's your guild that is the problem there. What's funny is that I didn't even mind the Firelands dailies. They felt more rewarding. With the dungeons basically being pointless because you can't use VP without dailies, I don't even feel like doing them. Maybe when there's enough geared people in them to make them smoother, but for now, I don't want to risk getting a pack of idiots in Shadow Pan. I already leveled 10 characters to 85 in Cata and with the leveling in Pandaria being so agonizingly slow I can hardly bear the idea of getting anything up past 87.

To boot, I don't even want to level lowbie toons because of CRZ and knowing I'll have to slog through Pandaland again to get to max.

Mostly I'm burnt out on raiding already. Everything but the Four Kings fight feels like a stupid gear check, we're stuck, week after week on that fucking Elegon dragon. Sure you can move to Heart of Fear... and beat up the first boss. What's that? Next boss is a gear check?! AWESOME! It's so nice to value gear numbers over any level of skill so much. This expansion already feels horribly stagnent.

I also hate it when I mention I hate dailies, only to hear: "Well just do one or two factions! It only takes an hour or two!" There is something wrong with this. I don't want to pay to do one to two hours of something I hate. When I get home from work or school I don't want to hop onto a game and do an hour or two of something I rather poke my eyes out than do. It's mindless busy work at best that's killed the need for dungeons and is supposed to be the "endgame" for people that aren't raiders. If scenarios weren't so pointless and clunky, maybe they would help, but, by and large, I've only found them frustrating and unrewarding.

I've been playing GW2 more and more now-a-days. I'm really starting to favor its more skill based combat. :/ I'm tired of gear checks, even if dailies aren't needed, it stills feels like players are funneled into them because that's really the only way you can make sure you're getting the gear you need to get past the fifth boss in the first fucking tier raid.

*deep breath.* Sorry for the rant there.

Due to the fact that you gain valor at 1k per week, there's no point in racing through exalted with these factions. The pieces cost enough that it'll take you awhile just to acquire them all which gives you ample time to get them all to exalted eventually. If you're feeling burnt out, stop doing them. I haven't done dailies in weeks and I raid in a few blue pieces, the very few LFR pieces I have and a couple of valor & conquest pieces. There is also crafted gear you can obtain to help yourself out. There are plenty of ways to be raid ready without doing dailies.

I was already burned up from grinding to 90 so I decided that I was just going to concentrate on one faction at a time. Did the Order of the Serpent first for the purty mount, now focusing on Klaxxi, and yes, for the gear. I'm sick of all these dailies too and it sickens me just how many points I NEED just to be able to buy stuff from the faction vendor even once I reach exalted :(

It's the multitude of posts like these that keep me from upgrading to MOP. It seems like the initial fun of the expansion has worn off, and now all my friends who still play are kind of stuck doing dailies that make them want to scream.

No, thank you.

Exactly, love. I already know I will be playing it through to see the zones' stories, but that's it. No more raiding, no more dungeons, no more rep grind; I'm done with all that.

I also already knew this would be the last expansion I bought. Sorry, Blizz. Eight is enough.

Half my Guild have quit for the same reasons, and I am just wasting time on it until Elder Scrolls MMO comes out

I can't wait! Only date I can find is "somewhere in 2013" for the release.

hrmm I do get sick of dailies *remembers Hodir* I havent' had that issue much with Pandaris except getting all the food for tiller people but that was my own choice. If I don't feel like doing them I don't do em. I got most of my gear from LFR, Sha of anger, Galleon, jp, heroics or crafting. If you can get into lfr you are more than ready gear wise to raid. I think your issue isn't so much getting geared up but the requirements you guild is putting on you.

On the daily not fun route, it soudns like you have daily burn out. I've got a couple people in guild who started having issues with htat. They feel they have to do allthe dailies and work on all the reps. Doing that day after day and not having time to do the other fun things will just burn all the fun out of the game. I generally only do one set of dailies a day. Since I unlocked Golden lotus and got all my crafting recipes I sometimes don't even do the 4 celestial dailies and those are the fastest and easiest. I've not even started on the sha-do pan dailies. I told my friends and guildies they need to cut back on the dailies. Do the fun stuff and then if have time do dailies and ifyou have friends you can do em faster. Still doesn't stop some of them runnign themselves ragged trying to grind them all up to exalted.

If there is anything wrong with the dailies in this expansion, I think it is the fact that Blizzard hasn't handled making them not seem like required well. Hopefully the new thing with upping ilvl will help if you like dungeons. You can use the points to up pieces to the level you need if the drops aren't liking you.

But, in short you are far from alone on the whole burning out thing on dailies. There was someone on here or another blog who pointed out the lack of need to rush and to hold back on dailies so you don't burn out. I thought about the advice and applied it. I'm very glad I did I think otherwise I'd be much like yourself.

Edited at 2012-11-28 09:07 am (UTC)

"If there is anything wrong with the dailies in this expansion, I think it is the fact that Blizzard hasn't handled making them not seem like required well."

This. I actually really enjoy the dailies. Even still, I don't do them every day because there is still enough repetition to drive me batty if I keep doing it. But, it does "feel" like a requirement. If I were still raiding, I know for a fact I would feel that way. But even then, playing casually, it's still a requirement if I want to get the cool mounts and stuff. I'm just okay with not getting them until like halfway into the expansion.

The most frustrating thing to me is how much of the story is wrapped into dailies and thus gated. It is awfully annoying to get into the story surrounding a certain zone and then -- nope -- you have to do eleventy billion dailies to get to the next rep level and continue the story! Argh. -_-

I dunno, I remember sitting around in Cata doing nothing on non-raid nights and thinking about how little there was to do. Eventually I stopped logging in when we weren't raiding, so Blizz has got my ticket there. Even though I am not over the moon about dailies, at least it provides you with the option of constant activity that can be done with or without a group... I only do dailies on nights where I don't raid because yes, it does take 2-3 hours to do them all if you are going that route and I am not going to rush home from work to get them done BEFORE raid and then raid all night. (I think my husband would divorce me, lol.)

But yeah--I honestly have like having something to do, repetitive as it is. Then again, I am the kind of person that doesn't mind mindless repetition, so...

Just my personal opinion.

I hate dailies, I don't mind doing them occasionally but I hate feeling forced into doing them every day. I mean hated the molten front dailies with an almost unrivaled passion.

However I don't really hate these dailies because a) you only need to pick one faction at a time (golden lotus is a pretty safe choice for everyone plus it unlocks two others) and b) you do not need to do dailies from your chosen faction every day. Why? Because the speed at which you earn VP severely gates what you can buy, so you only need to open up factions as quickly as you have the VP to purchase stuff and considering most factions have a couple of upgrades even if you're slow on getting the next one open you still have upgrades you can get. So the whole 'I've gotta do all these dailies every day' panic that people have isn't really logical, people themselves and guilds are putting undue pressure on everyone to do these dailies, all the dailies, every day when it just simply isn't needed.

Early on I was doing more than I had to because the math hadn't actually registered but as soon as it did I started doing 1 lot of dailies 2-3 times a week and I'm now revered with every faction, including the ones that don't offer gear (and exalted with the tillers but I kinda really liked the tillers dailies) and I still have one more piece of VP gear to buy (not counting the new stuff that just came out).

I know you said in the comments that it's your guild putting the pressure on you and I have to say it seems unnecessarily limiting, my guild started raiding this tier with an average ilvl of 450 and we were downing bosses, so an ilvl of 463 is more than enough for normal mode raiding, especially for the first few bosses of MSV. Considering the very slow speed at which it can be acquired VP rep gear should be viewed as a bonus not an absolute necessity.

I'm loving this xpac, there's a few things I really don't like but in the grand scheme of things they're pretty small (except CRZ which is still pissing me off in all non-MoP areas). I'm actually having to give up raiding after Christmas because I'm just not going to have the time for more than the occasional raid and I'm really sad about it because I am loving raiding this tier, if this had happened in DS I would have been out the door like a shot, by the end I hated DS so much, my least favourite tier ever. Plus I love my raid team and I'm a miss the hell out of raiding with them.

I guess I'm one of the few people who feels differently. I mean, I burnt myself out on dailies by doing every set every day for a while, but even so I go back and do ones (even ones I'm exalted with) occassionally, for achievs and for valor and for gold. Doing them every single day for a while of course will burn you out, but I like these dailies better than I liked any of them in Cata. (I hated the stupid Firelands dailies so freaking much, and I don't feel that way about any of the new ones). The biggest thing for me was telling myself that no, I really didn't need to do every set, every day. My fiance has only finished one faction to exalted and bought one or maybe two pieces of valor gear, and he is more than good for raiding... when we started, he didn't have any valor gear at all. We've cleared MSV and the first three bosses in HoF now.

You can raid without doing dailies. If you're fully geared from heroics, and the 476 crafted gear is cheap on most servers now, then filling out with LFR and Sha. (I won't count Galleon because I won't bother to camp him, but obviously that's an option, too) Plus once you start downing bosses, that gear is better than valor gear anyway -- there's several pieces of valor gear left for me that I just won't buy because there's better that can drop from bosses we're killing, just haven't gotten lucky to see the drops yet.

In addition to all that, with item upgrades, you can upgrade your heroic gear from 463 -> 472 (I think) now, with Justice Points. And, like others have said, the PVP gear this expansion really isn't bad for PVE. You get the same number of stats on it, just an addition of PVP stats with it.

I just remember, even in the beginning of Cata, sitting around in Stormwind all the time, talking about how I was bored and did anyone want to do any old world stuff... I haven't experienced that with Mists yet. Different strokes for different folks and all that, I guess. I hope you find something about it that you enjoy soon

I don't mind doing dailies, I just find the number of dailies a bit freaking ridiculous. I wish they were all like August Celestial dailies. All in one small area and only takes a short amount of time. I started off trying to do as many dailies as I could but quickly realized that with my schedule it just wasn't going to work. So I tend to pick one faction to work on. I don't do dailies every day. I'm still not exalted with August Celestials, Shadow Pan, or Klaxxi. I started raiding the second week of the expansion wearing some JP gear and mostly crafted PvP gear. I do dailies when I can and when I feel like it. I work on the factions in the order I feel like, not the ones that I probably should for raid gear. Order of the Cloud Serpent and Tillers were my first revered factions because I wanted my cloud serpent mount and I really like farming.

I think Blizz should have given us a few different options to get rep instead of just dailies. The tabards like we had in wrath were cool. I know they don't want people chain running dungeons for hours to get revered in a day, but they could limit the amount of rep you can get from dungeons per day. Or at the end of your first random dungeon of the day or LFR you get to pick a faction commendation to give you a nice chunk of rep.

I don't enjoy dailies, that being said, I'm also not killing myself on them. I am exalted with three reps so far (Serpents, Tillers, GL) and working on a "as I feel like it/have time" basis on Klaxxi (whose dailies I do actually kinda hate), Shado-Pan and August Celestials. Hubby has already been down and started the new stuff in Krasarang and asked me "When are you going to start em?" Answer? I said maybe the weekend, but I'm thinking more like January, cause I don't want to open up more factions when I have three in progress. Even if I don't see the storyline move forward for a extra month or so. The dailies for me are really more for the shiny mounts than the gear, though I'm happy when I get to the rep levels that let me purchase the raider gear :-)

Now that being said, there are apparently items you can now purchase at Revered with each faction now that will double your rep gain across ALL toons with that faction. DEFINATELY going to have to track those down before I feel fussed to do dailies again. I'll be honest, I'm a tank for my raid, I do not usually manage to max my Valor each week, I'm still wearing a few blues, and so far I'm doing OK in my role.

I find myself spending my "free" game time hunting battle pets rather than dailying, cause I enjoy the thrill of the chase, and capturing a rare quality pet almost always makes me happy!

My excitement towards the dailies is not fully extinguished yet, but it is definitely waning. As a completionist repgrinder, I initially welcomed the opportunity to fill rep bars as an endgame. But as time goes on, I'm just getting kind of fatigued. I finish a faction and I just feel relieved to have finished it, so I don't have to work on it anymore. When I realized that my experience with the game was becoming something out of a Dilbert cartoon, I started doing just one or two factions a day to fight off the repetition-induced torpor.

I can't say that it's helped. I got my cloud serpent last week and it was just... meh. It's a new fly to dailies on. Hip hip hooray. Toss it on the pile. I took a few screenshots of the cutscene and just started the next faction. I don't even look up what faction rewards are anymore. I know I'm going to grind the stupid things up anyway out of compulsion, so I might as well save the reward as a surprise. Tillers was nice with that. I didn't know there were goats.

Games ARE supposed to be fun, right?


Try finding someone to dailies with, maybe? Or even make a 5 man team to do them with. Doing the dailies with others makes it take less time and its not so awful because you have people to talk to.
This is what I've done, and its made the long grinds not that bad.

If you really don't want to do dailies at all, it can be frustrating to do LFR, but, there's 5 different LFRs now. I realize its frustrating to go and get nothing, and because we don't see gear drop, it feels like nothing is accomplished. But people are getting pieces. 5 LFRs is a lot of chances for gear, same with Sha. I got 496 tier gloves off Sha once. Which was fantastic. Some weeks you may not get much, if anything, but, that's not really that different from actual raiding in my experience. I'd also suggest some crafted pieces. Most people in our guild at least are willing to make pieces for other people who want them.

While I do agree that Blizz sent the wrong message when they talked about not wanting the rep grind, and then putting in a rep grind, I guess I'm kind of at a loss as to what everyone wants, exactly. There are a ton of dailies, reps, and achievements to work on. There are 5 LFRs, two months into the game. 3 Raids are open. Heroics are pretty easy and enjoyable. And once you get to honored and then revered with these factions, all the gear is open to you and you can just do heroics for the valor. There's a lot of different avenues. There's stuff to do. I hated waiting around for raid in Cata.

And I know people are worried about reps for alts, but, what does Blizz do every expansion? Makes gear easier to get as it goes on. By the end of Cata you could gear up for raid so much easier than you could at the beginning. It'll happen. You just have to chill. It's only 2 months into the expansion. And more casual guilds started raiding a month or so ago.

What are the stipulations you have for guild raiding? Because I thought you said you were the GM. Maybe you should consider re-evaluating the ilvl requirement. We only have a 460 ilvl requirement, and if you're a little under, but we know you've been trying to get pieces, we let you go anyway.

Edited at 2012-11-28 07:37 pm (UTC)

I like this expansion so far. I came into the game in early Lich King and I still think that was fabulous; immense lore in the background, incredible detail, beautiful settings (I can still recall my awe the first time I saw Ulduar) and a huge selection of things you could do. Then along came Cataclysm which looked pretty amazing and disappointed me on many levels. Little in the way of interesting law, hardly anything at all that I (as a non raider) could do, repetitive and dull. However, Pandaria is a lot closer to LK than Cata was. There is a lot of lore lurking in the background and I suspect there will be more as the expansion unfolds. They have set up interesting patches with a lot of variety. There are a lot of things to do - rep dailies for mounts and other nice items, finding lost treasures, collecting pets, increasing their levels and doing pet battles, scenarios, a selection of new dungeons, along with fairly complex raids for the raiders, nice gear, a new race and class, new pvp options, etc. So as I say, on the whole I am enjoying my game play a lot more.

My one big gripe is that for me at least its been a very buggy expac. Ive had repeated disconnection issues over the last few weeks and Blizz seems unable to address this - and I've tried everyting they have suggested multiple times. I think people with high end computer gear are probably handling the expansion changes a lot better than my low/middle of the road unit is. Which disappoints me because I think Blizzard should cater to everyone and not just those who can afford to spend thousands on a PC set up.

Are there a lot of dailies? Yes, and unfortunately to get certain things you might want in the game youneed to do at least some of them. I guess they had to set it somehow so that you have to put a bit of effort into at least one part of the game (since they nerfed so many other factors). I tend to just pick and choose what I want to do (I hate Klaxxi with a passion so that will be the very last thing I try to do to any degree) and I concentrate on those things I enjoy.

Well, I don't think it's fair that Blizzard should forever hold its graphics back to 2003 level. "Thousands on a PC set up" is silly to boot. I put together my computer with very very little computer knowledge for under 800. It only got up to 900 because I wanted the nice 22" monitor. A moderately good laptop will run you 600-800. You might be able to pull off something that can chug WoW for 400-500. They're not exactly catering to the rich kid's club here. It's likely your specific computer or something odd on their end, not everyone with low end computers suffers that issue.


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