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NEW [MASTER] REALID POST
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noabsolutes wrote in wow_ladies
Hi wow_ladies ! By now many of you know that Blizzard Did A Dumb yesterday and announced upcoming changes the the forums, which actually all sound great except for the minor detail that your real name is going to be attached to all posts in the forums.

*recordscratch.wav*

The post about this yesterday by the wonderful fledglingoflove has reached over 1200 comments, making it nearly 3x as big as our second most-commented post ever. Clearly we all have something to say about this, and the mods think it wise to keep this info close to the top of the page as possible since wow_ladies moves pretty fast. Please contain your comments on RealID to either this post or the one yesterday by fledglingoflove . Duplicate posts will be deleted in order to provide a more fluid browsing experience for everyone.

NOTE: These changes are NOT retroactive and will occur once the Cataclysm forums are live. This feature will go live earlier for players of Starcraft II.

VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: PLEASE DO NOT LINK TO BLUE POSTER BASHIOK'S PERSONAL INFORMATION. WOW_LADIES DOES NOT WISH TO BE PART OF THE PROBLEM

ALSO PLEASE NOTE THAT A NEW MASTER POST IS UP! JOIN THE ONGOING DISCUSSION HERE





LINKS AND INFORMATION:






Will Blues have their info posted? Our sources say YES-

via reservoir - @wolvzor on Twitter: "After a talk with Blizzard phone reps, turns out BLUES will NOT have real names posted in the forums due to "Security Concerns." #Blizzard & a WoW.com post on the rumor-

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EU CM Wryxian (via fledglingoflove ) :
So you're selectively ignoring what we're saying and jumping to conclusions? Well, in that case, let me restate because I thought it was already clear from the previous times we answered this question and from the original message ("With this change, you’ll see blue posters (i.e. Blizzard employees) posting by their real first and last names on our forums as well."). We will be posting in the new style forums, and because choosing to post in the new forums means that you display your real name, we too will display our real name. [Source]


US CM Nethaera (via sophiaserpentia ):
Just to set the record straight here, our original statement stands and all Blizzard Employees will be using their real names in posts as we announced. This has not changed and as always, should this change, we will be sure to post about it.

Keep in mind, on our end, we have had our names credited within the manual and games for some time. This has not changed and has been available information. Also keep in mind that this does not excuse any forms of bullying or fearmongering that is being perpetrated by select individuals who oppose this change. [Source]


I think we can consider this matter closed, but I'm going to keep this info up for now as I have a feeling this rumor will persist.




How to contact Blizz:

Snail mail address:

Blizzard Entertainment
P.O. Box 18979
Irvine, CA 92612

Information from their ESRB policy:

If you have any questions or wish to file a complaint, please feel free to e-mail us at privacy@blizzard.com, call us at (949) 955-1382, or send a letter addressed to Blizzard Entertainment Privacy Policy, Attention: Privacy Policy Administrator, at 16215 Alton Pkwy. Irvine CA 92618-3616.

Blizzard, through its parent company, is a licensee of the ESRB's Privacy Online Program. If you believe that we have not responded to your inquiry or your inquiry has not been satisfactory addressed, please contact ESRB directly at http://www.esrb.org/privacy/contact.jsp or:

ESRB Privacy Online
Attn: Director, Privacy Online
317 Madison Avenue, 22 Floor
New York, NY 10017
privacy@esrb.org




For those of you on Twitter, wow_ladies members are using #WoWFail, #Blizzardfail, and #realid




USEFUL BLOG POSTS
(keep tossing these to me please, and be patient - I'm consistently about 100 notifs behind in my inbox)


ETA #1:
The most arrogant blue post ever written, holy shit, thank you reservoir

ETA #2 "If you really do read all posts in this thread and others, like we are doing, then you will see some examples of what I was meaning by "scare-mongering". There are posts from some people who are either confused by the changes or generally uncertain, and they are getting understandably scared and then posting in a way that scares other people in the process." Thank you phoenix_singing , for digging this 'clarification' of 'scare-mongering' up for us




What can you do? what9000 has written a compelling argument for canceling your account (if only briefly). Did you cancel your account over this? Join the conversation here! Want a badge for your troubles? Thank popehippo for creating THIS




For those of you in a petition-signing mood, noelove has brought this to our attention.


I am actually gonna looking into it right now as I also heard that it indeed does break the Dutch law in some way. As soon as my dad is home I will ask him about it since he deals with this kind of legal stuff all day long.

Here's what I could find, perhaps your father has some more info about it (pref. in English)


Het recht op privacy wordt in verschillende internationale verdragen gegarandeerd. In artikel 17 van het VN verdrag voor Burgerlijke en Politieke rechten uit 1966 staat:

1. Niemand mag worden onderworpen aan willekeurige of onwettige inmenging in zijn privéleven, zijn gezinsleven, zijn huis en zijn briefwisseling, noch aan onwettige aantasting van zijn eer en goede naam.
2. Een ieder heeft recht op bescherming door de wet tegen zodanige inmenging of aantasting.

Ook artikel 8 van het Europees Verdrag voor de Rechten van de Mens garandeert deze rechten. Burgers in Europese landen kunnen zich bij de rechter op dit verdrag beroepen. De manier waarop verschilt wel per land. In Nederland heeft dit verdrag, zoals alle internationale verdragen voorrang op nationale wetgeving. In Duitsland heeft het EVRM geen voorrang, maar eenzelfde positie als andere wetten. Daar staat tegenover dat voor Nederland het EVRM belangrijker is omdat wetten niet aan de Grondwet mogen worden getoetst, terwijl dat in Duitsland wel het geval is, en daar zelfs een apart gerecht voor is.


Anyway, it's not against the law as you CHOOSE to post on the forums or not, when you post you'll get a pop up saying you agree with them.

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