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Opinions on Roleplaying the Opposite Gender
Almondine
ashenrook wrote in wow_ladies
After a recent article I've written, I got to thinking about what others in the gaming world feel about this topic. During my RP exploits, I've seen various reactions towards those who roleplay a character that is a different gender as them in real life. Anywhere from not caring, to being kinda puzzled by the thought, to plain ol' being creeped out. Even though I have many female toons in my character arsenal, my current mains have been male for a good long while and I've received a surprising amount of flak, from both men and women, from people just because I am a girl behind a male avatar.

So, in light of this, I'd love to have your opinions on the matter being I intend to make a follow-up post with a more recent sampling of what the playerbase thinks about this subject and others. You do not have to roleplay to answer these questions and no matter what your stance on the matter is, all input will be valued. The only thing I will ask of people is that any answers given in response need to be serious ones. Thanks in advance!

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1) What are your thoughts of men playing female characters? Of women playing male characters?

2) What are your thoughts of men roleplaying female characters? Of women roleplaying male characters?

3) What are your thoughts of men roleplaying lesbian female characters? Of roleplaying gay male characters?

4) What are your thoughts of women roleplaying lesbian female characters? Of roleplaying gay male characters?

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You do not have to answer each question individually if you do not wish it, but any and all information that you care to offer will be very much appreciated.

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I personally am fine with people playing or roleplaying as any gender they choose, after all, it's a fantasy world where you can play as whoever you want, so why limit yourself?

I don't have any problem with any of it. I write. Not professionally, but I do. Writing is a lot like roleplaying with yourself. You *have* female characters. You *have* male characters. You may even have homosexual characters of either or both genders.

You are not your character. This isn't a hand-waving to be a dick, but more seriously, that you should not be limited by your gender or sexual orientation towards playing other characters. It *does* mean you should at least have an idea of what you're talking about, though.

As someone who came to RP from a writing background this is a lot of how I feel about it: Characters do not necessarily have to be avatars. Some people treat them as such, sometimes even I treat them as such, but it depends. And on that note, I will actually tackle your bullet points. :)

1) What are your thoughts of men playing female characters? Of women playing male characters?

I think it's pretty normal to want to look at something appealing. I tend to make even my female characters at least bearable to look at, even if in context they might be monsters sometimes.

2) What are your thoughts of men roleplaying female characters? Of women roleplaying male characters?

I think it depends. I get creeped out by people playing oversexualized characters of the opposite sex. There was a guy on TB for a while who had this horrible evil sadistic male character with this nubile teenage female victim, and he ended up RPing the girl a LOT, and the degree to which he played up her sexuality and attractiveness - this girl who had been raped in his stories - really put me off.

That said, there are also plenty of people who RP characters of the opposite sex in ways that don't make me want to go scrub with a Brillo pad, and I don't tend to assume the person is a perv.

3) What are your thoughts of men roleplaying lesbian female characters? Of roleplaying gay male characters?

Again, I think it depends. It can be really creepy, but it doesn't have to be. Sometimes it can be easier to RP a character with your own interests despite the gender, or sometimes it can get you around awkward attachments to RP a character whose interests you don't share at all. Or sometimes that's just who the character is and it has nothing to do with any OOC motivations. Though I think that any character who would fit into what one might call a "special interest group" should be RPed with care towards being realistic. Offensive, stereotypical characters are never cool.

4) What are your thoughts of women roleplaying lesbian female characters? Of roleplaying gay male characters?

Same as above, though I suppose I can speak a little more on this because I do RP a gay male character. I've RPed straight male characters in the past, so it's not that I limit myself exclusively to gay characters when RPing men. The Forsaken character I was RPing heavily before him - his sister Meganna - is very poorly-adjusted to being Forsaken, and I wanted him to be a little more accepting of his condition, so it helped bolster my concept of him as a character to have him be someone who was used to being a bit of an outcast and accepting things about himself that others didn't accept and even considered morally reprehensible. Being gay clicked right into that theme.

But sometimes I see (usually teenage, usually otaku) female RPers who seem to think that "gay" means "virtually indistinguishable from female" and I cry.

I have no idea why it would matter. Hell, we aren't elves or orcs in real life either, so why a character's gender or sexuality an issue?

That's like saying you can't write a book, story, etc. with characters that aren't just like you.

Also, I don't RP in WoW, but I do elsewhere (no, not THAT kind of "roleplaying"), where I portray a guy. Mwahaha. Take that, haters!


"I have no idea why it would matter. Hell, we aren't elves or orcs in real life either, so why a character's gender or sexuality an issue?"

I wouldn't know... On my newer server, I don't get as much grief for having male avatars but I do get the occasional curious question as to why I have them (namely from other girl gamers).

The answer to that question is always - and I mean always

Well, look at me! Helloooo! (even and especially if you're undead, just to throw 'em off-stride for a bit)

On the serious side:

1: I've never understood why anybody would care. Well, okay, I understand why those out to play WoW for teh ERPs would care, but IMHO their trauma is my LULZ.

2 through 4: Good roleplaying is good roleplaying no matter what gender is behind that character. Bad roleplaying is going to out itself no matter what kind of bits the avatar is running around with (or without). To claim that the gender of the player or the avatar somehow detracts from the RP is silly, to say the least.

I'm fine with guys rping as girls, straight or lesbian, but as long as it's because they want to rp that way and not to get some kind of sexual kick (ie, low level ERP characters in Goldshire).

I'm a lesbian and both of my characters are straight females. They're individual characters, not a clone of me.

"I'm fine with guys rping as girls, straight or lesbian, but as long as it's because they want to rp that way and not to get some kind of sexual kick (ie, low level ERP characters in Goldshire)."

Amen to that. That's pretty much where I draw the line, as well--when people make characters, no matter what gender or orientation, to be a virtual fuck doll and little else.

I also want to add that my draenei dk is missing both hands (she has terminator-like replacements engineered by my other RP character) and hardly anyone knows about it IC. I was paranoid that people would think i was doing it out of some kind of weird fetish, and so the character hid the problem away with a few clever tricks and only told my engineer about it because she recognised that she needed the help. (She had her gloves buckled to her armor to stop them falling off, used Death Grip to pull things into her plate glove when she needed to pretend to be holding something, and abused the crap out of her ghoul and made him carry things and fetch things for her). Even now that she has replacements, she wears leather gloves all the time so nobody notices.

Anything goes as long as it's plausible within the Wow universe and done in a manner that's not clearly "omg I'm getting something perverted out of this"

(And I have no idea how it happened. Whenever she's asked, she dodges the subject).

I'm happy with anyone roleplaying anything as long as they are roleplaying people, not stereotypes.

I've met plenty of men who can roleplay women very well - and they are invariably roleplaying a person who is also female. Not someone who is a freakish and strange alien who they could never hope to understand. I've met plenty of men who roleplay women shockingly badly because they absolutely must signify femaleness with stereotypes at every opportunity (giggling, pretending incompetence and so forth). When the latter intersects with someone trying to get sexual thrills ('Yes, I'm a lesbian, and oh no, my halter top broke and I'm NAKED who wants to lick off the icecream?') it's not even weird to me any more. I just roll my eyes and understand they've never had a date.

Same is vice versa, for women roleplaying men. I feel similarly about straight people roleplaying queer folk, and vice versa. None of it hits my 'you are disturbed/stupid/annoying' button until I run across some gigantic stereotype ten feet tall. No one wants their whole life to be reduced to a stereotype that often demeans them.

'Yes, I'm a lesbian, and oh no, my halter top broke and I'm NAKED who wants to lick off the icecream?'

I nearly spit up my drink upon reading that. *chuckle*

You might also find this interesting: http://www.nickyee.com/daedalus/gateway_genderbend.html

The Daedalus project was a study conducted over several years on MMO gamers. It's no longer being continued, but the findings are still valuable.

Ahhh, yeah! I came across this post years ago and I, honestly, forgot it existed. Thanks for the link!

I don't care if men roleplay female characters, or women roleplay male characters. It's like telling a story - you're just the author. I do have a problem with people playing homosexual members of the opposite gender, usually men roleplaying lesbians. This is not because I have a problem with homosexuality, but more because I've known too many men who are not roleplayers to create lesbian characters just so they can get their jollies on hot girl on girl sex. If a guy wants to play a legit female character who just happens to be lesbian, though, then that's cool.

Honestly, I have no problem with people who want to explore other genders or assorted homosexual relationships. After all, people should play what they want to play. XD Admittedly, due to just having the avatars to look at, I do tend to assume the person playing the character is the same gender as the character. (Yes, I know, assuming is horrible, but when you haven't spoken to the player in Vent and haven't been told otherwise, that's really all you can do.) Once I get over the brief shock of finding out the player's gender is different than I thought it was, it really doesn't phase me.

Personally, I have no problem playing male characters when the game in question is text-based. However, I really don't find the look of most of the male avatars in WoW to be all that appealing, which is why I tend to stick to my own gender when it comes to characters.


(Also, hi, Kiryl! *waves and hugs*)

I will admit to sometimes letting people in PuGs and such believe I'm male, just to keep from complicating things. I don't do it if they're people I believe I'm going to see very often, and I don't lie if asked, but I do tend to go from ^.^ to ^_^.

Same. I don't make a deal of it when I'm in a PuG and just act normally. If I get pulled into vent and get a "Wait...who was that talking?", then I'll admit to being Kiryl's voice.

I was involved in a night of city raiding once where I jumped in to tank Tyrande because I was apparently the only one in the entire raid with a tank spec, and I jumped on Vent on the way to the Exodar because, well, if I was main-tanking I needed to speak in Vent, and there was a moment of, "Hi, I'm the awesome guy who just tanked Tyrande for y'all!" with the implied "Also I'm a girl IRL!" that just amused me to no end. I do get a kick out of my male character also playing a traditionally non-female party role.

^This.

the girlfriend has 2 L80 Prot (Prot Main, Holy Off -- leveled as Prot on both) Paladins that she raids with. the sudden silences when she talks on Vent is hilarious!

Honestly, I see nothing wrong with doing that. If they don't ask, you're not under any obligation to tell them, after all.

i love these things. i'll happily answer.

1) What are your thoughts of men playing female characters? Of women playing male characters?

i think it's a liberating experience. you can choose not to tell the other party your real gender and that gives the RPer in question a sense of peace. men who play female characters are as welcome to me as women who play men. i, myself, like to RP men; it gives me a chance to peek into the male brain and lifestyle. it might be the same for men.

2) What are your thoughts of men roleplaying female characters? Of women roleplaying male characters?

^ above

3) What are your thoughts of men roleplaying lesbian female characters? Of roleplaying gay male characters?

as a friend of a teenage boy who plays a female lesbian character with another man who plays a female lesbian character (don't you love it? and their characters are in a lesbian relationship with each other) i think it's as natural for them as a heterosexual thing. maybe they feel more comfortable relating to the lesbians. i don't really know; power to them. my boyfriend has a character who occasionally dapples with the men and you know, why should it matter? he's comfortable with who he is and his character is too. maybe it's a release.

4) What are your thoughts of women roleplaying lesbian female characters? Of roleplaying gay male characters?

same as above, really.. if it's what they like, do it.

i play a male character who is married to a woman but he crossdresses and ICly does the gender change. my character is a Troll, and his wife is a Blood Elf. the wife is played by a woman and she's comfortable with the idea that her 'husband' is actually a woman as well. other people can be squicked and turned away from such RP. i wouldn't force the idea on someone. i rather welcome the challenges. my Troll is also a halfbreed by his RP. i don't get a lot of flack in game for it even when my RP description is read. sometimes i wish i did so i could open up possibilities and scenarios - even learn more about my own toon. a challenge is nice. if the RPer can stretch the lines and do it well, that's what makes a creative RPer.

honestly, RPing and even leveling a female toon disinterests me. i simply don't like it. i can't connect or create a playable woman. perhaps it has something to do with already being one? i find my male toons much easier and more relaxing to level and RP. it gives me a glimpse into the life a of a man. i can tweak things as i will but with respect for the male gender. sure, i've gotten a lot of, "Why is a woman playing a male toon? O__o" and a few people tell me i'm lying, but that's their ideas.

i don't necessarily just like playing the 'girly men' such as my crossdressing Troll. i've fleshed out my human DK a bit and tried to be more 'manly' with him than my Troll. my Troll DK on my home server is almost a balance. he's an Amani Troll; died at 16 in Ghostlands; a cellist; and he's homosexual with an Orcish DK mate. but the way he acts fluctuates. sometimes immature, sometimes he gets a light bulb of genius over his head. and really, i try hard to keep the old, 'Amani is superior, damn you Elves and the rest of the Horde! Oh yeah, and you die in a fire, Alliance rats' thing true.

all in all, i like playing male toons a lot more than female toons and who truly cares about the gender behind the toon, or vice versa? enjoy the game. :)

EDIT: .. uh, holy wall of text, batman. >.>;;

Edited at 2009-07-24 03:16 am (UTC)

My thoughts on all of these is whatever floats your boat. Especially when it comes to roleplaying. Isn't that what the word entails? That you're playing a role that usually is nothing like yourself. I don't get why people get so weird about it except they for some reason view themselves as their characters and can't separate IC from OOC and feel as if they're dating the person their toon is dating.

Okay, some of these answers might have been slightly different, depending on the person in question. Such as a lesbian playing a lesbian character? I would think, no big deal; most likely, they're playing what they're comfortable with or what they know. For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to assume that the player(s) in question are heterosexual. (And many apologies for the ramble to follow. *lol*)

1. "So what?" XD I don't think it strange to find (non-RP) players/characters whose genders don't match. Most people I've noticed pick one over the other due to animations, voices, emotes, etc. (Like how many females roll troll dudes because they can't stand the clumpy running for the troll chicks.) What surprises me is the immediate assumption that because I play a female toon, I must be a chick. o.O (A surprise for exactly what you said; 'I dun wanna look at some dude's ass all night...')

2. Honestly, I tend to be a smidgen bit of impressed with guys who RP as gals. In nearly 20 years of RPing in various venues, I've seen a lot more women taking on men's roles than the other way around. I think society and the ever-looming question of one's manhood might hold a guy back, where as ladies feel a little more freedom (especially in the text-style RPs, which do seem to be heavily female-dominated). Kinda like women in pantsuits (okay, big deal?) compared to guys in pink sweaters (unusual, but kudos). But, meh, otherwise, who cares? Real life =/= WoW life.

3. I admit, my knee-jerk reaction is apprehensiveness to cross-gender+cross-sexuality, for both guys and ladies. It seems like 99% of guys rping lesbians are doing so (and BADLY) for the sake of Goldshite Goldshire pr0nz. (*Also, food for thought, when was the last time you saw a dude playing a butch? Nooooo, it's always lipstick lesbians. :P)

As for guys playing gay men? Well, I'll let you know if I ever see one! Or at least one that doesn't start the [Anal] jokes within 5 minutes of creation.

4. As I mentioned above, my immediate reaction is to cringe and be wary. Nearly every gal I've seen playing a homosexual dude, it's been a heavy-handed, unrealistic visual version of ff.net-worthy slash. Almost always ludicrously effeminate, soap bubble fragility, always with the pretty effing hair, and dear gods, why don't these women just go flat-chested futa, since that's obviously what they're trying to do. (*More food for thought, ever see one of these girls playing a bear-ish type? Hmm... thought not.)

Females playing lesbians? Unfortunately, here comes the double standard. I honestly can't recall ever seeing 2 gay men playing for the benefit of a female. What does that have to do with the ladies behind the lesbian toons? Almost every single lesbian-playing lady that I've come across has chosen to play as a lesbian for the purpose of, yes, playing with another lesbian for the benefit of a guy. This is the majority of what I encounter, so yes, I tend to be more apprehensive about females playing lesbians than I do with males playing gay men.

If someone can play any LGBTQ character and play them well, than I am over the moon with love and admiration. It's downright silly how far society's thinking has come along in even just the last few years, only to have to jump back into the proverbial closet when ya sign onto WoW, ICly or OOCly. :P Plus I'm sick of seeing (pardon the pun) 'queer' characters who have NO personality to speak of beyond what's between their legs or OMG lookit mah sparkly sparkly hair! *flitter* I'd rather see characters who are of a sexuality and not just the sexuality.

This. Especially the answer to number four re: slash, stereotype, and a character's sexuality being only one facet of their existence.

:)

I see so much of it done so badly on my server, i.e. my comment above about teenage otaku girls playing gay men as virtually indistinguishable from women. When I decided one of my characters should be gay - again, as mentioned above, because I felt that having accepted himself as a gay man and dealt with the related social issues would make him a more resilliant person for the other shit I put him through - I knew I was going to have to go out of my way to make him as unlike that as possible. I wouldn't call him a bear, the fact that he started as a younger brother from another character's backstory dictated that he was a bit young for that, but I like to think it's not something that someone would guess about him unless they saw him with his "friend" or heard some of the gritty details of his backstory. Though I suppose it could be picked up by his generally "meh" attitude towards some of the cocktease girls who tend to hang around the Gallows' End.

Absolutely! The queer people that I know, I learned about their sexuality mostly from inference, or by hearing them talk about their partners. They certainly don't walk into the room with coifed hair, a hot pink T-shirt reading "I AM GAY" and act effeminate. I haven't seen it on WoW, but I certainly have seen it on LJ RP. I'm sorry to say that I'm not surprised.

My inherent problem with the teenage-yaoi-otaku crew is the way they treat homosexuality. WoW is a hard enough medium to get people to be okay with queer folk; and it's really hard to claim that you're a champion of equal rights (as I've heard so many of those types say), when you hold up a character's sexuality as something titillating and something to be fetishized. There is really no way to 'look' gay or to 'act' gay, and I really wish bad!RPers would stop perpetuating those thoughts.

A person's sexuality is just another detail, like eye colour or favourite food. And even if you do a romance plot with them, it shouldn't be focused on "OMG, THEY'RE IN LOVE AND THEY'RE BOTH BOYS. LOOK AT THAT, EVERYONE!" It should be more about the emotions that the two parties feel for one another, regardless of their gender.

I could go on for hours about this, and I've actually theorized that it would make a great anthropological/sociological master's thesis. XD (Too bad I'm a chemist by vocation.)

Sometimes I really do want to ask these people if they have ever known an actual gay man. D:

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My only problem is for any server, whether roleplaying or not, I enjoy honesty. So if I am roleplaying/created a male toon, I'm not going to pretend I also a male behind the keyboard and visa versa. My ex-boyfriend bugged me a bit, he would play female toons everywhere on the internet and thus pretend to be a lesbian female. Needless to say, it also weirded me out a bit as he was fishing around on the internet that way, before we were together.

Perhaps that makes me biased due to bad experiences in the past, but that is my two cents. So I could care less whatever a person decides to play -as long as they are atleast honest about what lies behind the keyboard. Then again, its not something you need to yell every five seconds to let everyone know. Just don't pretend or try to fool people is all.

My boyfriend is one of the more well-known female characters on the server. He plays women better than most girls do. I say this because frankly - as long as you love RP and do a good job at it, who the fuck am I to care who's behind the keyboard. It's a character, not you.


1) What are your thoughts of men playing female characters? Of women playing male characters?

...*shrugs* if that's what they wanna choose. It's their eyes that have to look at it all day.


2) What are your thoughts of men roleplaying female characters? Of women roleplaying male characters?

Most of my answers at this point are based off of my D&D game but the attitude carries over to any roleplaying situation. In my D&D group currently we have two men..both are roleplaying women. One is a straight woman the other is as close to asexual as she can get and still be female. If it's roleplayed with skill it's not a problem.

3) What are your thoughts of men roleplaying lesbian female characters? Of roleplaying gay male characters?

Never had it happen before, Though I did know a gay man that roleplayed a straight man once....Yes, I have never known a man to play a lesbian female character. Imagine that.

4) What are your thoughts of women roleplaying lesbian female characters? Of roleplaying gay male characters?

Ah here we have it.. I know at least 4 women, self included that have roleplayed a gay or bisexual male character. For me I roll some dice to determine the sexuality of the character if I have no clear idea of a character in my mind.


1) What are your thoughts of men playing female characters? Of women playing male characters?

I don't care. People play what's appealing to them, and what I find appealing isn't always what other people find appealing.

2) What are your thoughts of men roleplaying female characters? Of women roleplaying male characters?

I don't care either way. :)

3) What are your thoughts of men roleplaying lesbian female characters? Of roleplaying gay male characters?

I tend to think most people RPing GLBT characters are attention seekers, so I'm pretty skeptical of anyone RPing such. That's not to say there's good, legit RPers out there doing it to better the story and/or their characters.. it's just that there are too many people out there that are very LOOK AT ME I'M SO SPECIAL AND UNIQUE!

4) What are your thoughts of women roleplaying lesbian female characters? Of roleplaying gay male characters?

See: above.

1. /shrug Not a big deal. I've played male characters.

2. Out of all the RPers I know, there are two who have done this convincingly. If someone can do it well, I'm fine with it. Oddly enough, both of them played straight characters. Perhaps it helped to distance themselves from the character.

3. If it's done well, I don't have a problem. However...I have never seen a guy play a lesbian anything close to well.

4. Above, reversed.

Mainly, I don't object to the principle, just to the usual implementation. Such, especially with someone playing an opposite sex gay/lesbian etc character, is usually horribly unconvincing and sometimes seems like merely begging for attention.

/sigh

1) What are your thoughts of men playing female characters? Of women playing male characters? I find the concept slightly creepy.

2) What are your thoughts of men roleplaying female characters? Of women roleplaying male characters? I don't like it. A) Because I still find it creepy (had some bad experience as a kid with a guy pretending to be a girl in a chat) and B) Because I have yet to seen it done well. Seriously, normally you can tell after a minute of RP what gender is behind the screen and often the character is so full of stereotypes that it squashes any attempt at real roleplay.
If someone does it for a laugh, that is a different matter, but I find that often the novelty value runs out really fast and you're left with a character you can't roleplay seriously with.
I should also point out that I don't mind it at all, if it is a transexual who is playing whatever gender her would like to become physically.

3) What are your thoughts of men roleplaying lesbian female characters? Of roleplaying gay male characters? Again, I really don't like it. Often those are people who also enjoy lesbian pornography or slash, which makes me feel as if I play an involuntary part in their sexual fantasy. *shivers* Also, I have never seen it pulled off well. Often you can't tell that the character is gay at all until they describe in great and unnecessary detail what they'd like to do with someone else. May be that is just me, but I can normally tell if someone is gay in rl just by their little mannerisms.

4) What are your thoughts of women roleplaying lesbian female characters? Of roleplaying gay male characters? If it is done in a blatant ERP type way, it irks me, but than any character played in a blatant ERP type way irks me >.> Otherwise I don't mind at all.


1) What are your thoughts of men playing female characters? Of women playing male characters?

I see nothing wrong in this - I choose my toon based on how the model looks rather than gender. Personally, I really dislike the shape of female draenei so I've only ever rolled male; the same goes for blood elves. Conversely, I like the female models more than the males for most other races (tauren guys and gals are neck and neck in awesome) so all my other toons are female. I do have an issue with guys rolling female characters and then pretending to be female behind the screen. It's sexist that I'm not so bothered by women pretending to be men, I know, but 'tis just the way I feel.

2) What are your thoughts of men roleplaying female characters? Of women roleplaying male characters?

My only problem with this is that they may well end up being a bit obvious - a male character speaking like a woman would or acting as the female player would want their perfect man to; a female character being particularly masculine or especially slutty. That said, I know plenty of good roleplayers who RP the opposite gender fine, and I think 'tis a perfectly acceptable thing to do. For me, RP is an exploration of character. Playing the opposite gender gives you access to a whole new pool of quirks and mentalities.

3) What are your thoughts of men roleplaying lesbian female characters? Of roleplaying gay male characters?

I look down my nose at the former. Can't help it. If I see a guy playing a lesbian character I automatically presume he's doing so to get off to it. Narrow minded, maybe, but most of the lesbian pairs I've encountered are curled up naked on the top floor of Goldshire or Silvermoon inn. =/ If they're roleplaying well then I would be perfectly happy with it, I just have yet to encounter that.

As for guys roleplaying gay characters, I've only encountered one of these, and he was really good. He was roleplaying it as a proper relationship - not rampant, crappy ERP or the sort of failship commonly seen in fanfiction - so I respected him for it. I guess that's how I'd feel towards this sort of roleplay: respect if it's well done, vague snobbery if it's done poorly. Which is really my attitude towards romantic RP plots in WoW.

4) What are your thoughts of women roleplaying lesbian female characters? Of roleplaying gay male characters?

I've seen the former done well once. I don't know, maybe all my experiences of couples in WoW have been bad, because my knee-jerk to Q3 & 4 have been "erk" and the same goes for same-sex relationships. Lesbian characters in particular are far too often degraded to naked dancing on tables. That the player behind the screen might be female as well doesn't change my opinion on that at all.

The latter... I've seen done so badly it made me want to facedesk repeatedly. If ye want yaoi slash, write fanfiction and keep it out of my chatbox, kkthxbai. Again, if it was done well I'd be fine with it, though.

Doesn't bother me, I'm more interested in developed characters.
1-I play a very flirtatious male draenei paladin who uses his status to impress the ladies but as he's never really got anywhere with that so I dunno! XD I built him to fail in that respect. Not sure what I would do if he got anywhere with a lady!
Some of the most rp fun I've had is with ladies playing as males, I dunno, they seem to take it less seriously... I've seen too many muscle-bound avenging heros that have to protect/save everything for my liking.
3- My boyfriend plays a very fun lesbian nelf who's been coupled with my female draenei mage, he doesn't play her for kicks or perversion, she's pretty a-sexual but it just gelled that they would have a relationship. We've never played anything sexual between them, they're pretty innocent in that respect and left by herself his nelf just wants to brawl, drink and kill horde. His nelf is only female by accident, she would have the same personality if she was male, it just happened he didn't like the looks of the males.


I'm open minded

1) What are your thoughts of men playing female characters?

I've never had a problem with this. When I first found out about most females in any game being played by males, it made me pause to think about why that would be the case. I've since become friends with quite a few males who have female characters, and the most common reason is a simple one: if they're going to stare at a backside for hours, they'd like to stare at one they can enjoy looking at. Hey, understandable! I've since had no problem with it. A few giggles when I remember specific answers my male friends have given when I ask, but that's about it ;)

Of women playing male characters?

Doesn't bother me. I once RP dated a male character for close to two years, and the female behind the keys even spoke with me on the phone numerous times, and I still thought she was a guy, from the sound of her voice. When she finally confessed, and told me why (lesbian coming out of a bad relationship and needed to work through it, so was hiding, after a fashion), it took me about two minutes of thinking about it to say hey, it doesn't matter. You're still the same person on the inside, right? And we've been close ever since. It truly never has bothered me, either way.


2) What are your thoughts of men roleplaying female characters?

Still not a problem. I've seen some real talent out there - guys that can pull off RP'ing females as if they were born female. Once I find out it's a guy behind the keys, I have to admire their ability to immerse themselves in the female mindset in order to pull it off. It takes a special kind of person to be able to do that, and maintain their masculinity. It's not as easy as it sounds.

Of women roleplaying male characters?

Same as above, simply reverse the genders :)


3) What are your thoughts of men roleplaying lesbian female characters? Of roleplaying gay male characters?
4) What are your thoughts of women roleplaying lesbian female characters? Of roleplaying gay male characters?


I'll answer these last two at the same time: I have no problems with any of it. As I answered above, I have great respect and admiration for those who can role play outside their personal life's experiences. It takes a special talent to be able to do so, no matter your gender or sexual orientation. I've been told I have that talent.... I'm not so sure. Yes, I've pulled off playing a gay male character, and a straight male character, a lesbian female and a straight female, but it's taken quite a bit of effort to get into a mindset not my own.

For the record, I'm a bisexual female player, if that helps you with your information gathering.

I hope these answers help :)

1) What are your thoughts of men playing female characters? Of women playing male characters?

I've played a male toon as my main in pretty much every MMO I've ever played (EQ, CoH, SWG, AoC, VG, WoW, etc.). I have no issues with other females doing the same or males playing females. I feel like I'm making a character. Someone other than myself... And, for some odd reason, I feel a lot better pretending to be a male, even though I sometimes get envious when my sister (who only plays female toons) gets free things. However, at least I didn't get hassled with cyber requests.
... nm I have. Once. A female used this hilariously subtle way of asking if I (an assumed male) would like to 'eat' her. But it definitely wasn't as bad as the stuff my sister received.

I never correct people on my gender unless I'm on a character that has issues with it. Like my gnome warrior 'cause she's always touchy about the "all gnomes look alike" syndrome the taller races have. On my male orc, I could care less.
I know some guys on my Horde guild get confused on why I play a male instead of a female, but some of said guys also have female mains so bleh. One guildie tried to bribe me (with a motorcycle) to use the customization thing to turn my toon female... and if he actually went through with it, I'd keep my end of the deal - for the 30 days it'd take to change back anyway. :P

2-4) Roleplaying

There's good RPing and bad RPing. If it's done well, I don't care. If it's done badly... Well, I don't care either, I jus' ignore them.
All of my RP guildies roleplay really well and make awesome stories, no matter what their real sex or sexual orientation is.
One straight female and one lesbian female in my guild would roleplay their female toons in a relationship. The straight one, on one of her other toons, was also in a relationship with a male toon (with male player). The lesbian female also has another of her female toons in a relationship with her partner's male-made toon.
So yeah, it really doesn't matter.

My male orc is gay... but no one really knows that besides myself. :P It's not like he flaunts it and regularly hits on other males (unless the "Love is in the Air" event is going on, but everyone flirts with everyone anyway to get objectives done).

Edited at 2009-07-24 03:57 pm (UTC)

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